How to Create Support Systems When You Don't Have Any With Molly Mandelberg
Have you ever been in a situation where you felt so incredibly alone? I know I have. In this week's edition we're going to break down how to create support systems so you're no longer lonely.
FIRST THINGS FIRST
I have been a little, well, very MIA recently. In our home we’ve been through two different colds, the flu, and the baby has Chicken Pox right now. In addition to my carpal tunnel surgeries (last one happening on Dec 9). So I chose to take some time away from actively working on things so I could get better and stay better.
I’ve begun working on presenting TikTok mental health topics on YouTube for more in-depth discussion on important lived-experience based subjects. My most recent upload was about ADHD vs Narcissism. You can check that out below.
Next week I’ll be releasing both a NEW podcast episode AND a NEW YouTube video on how to help your teen who is struggling. As a young adult, I worked with teens for five years in the areas of emotional, community, and academic support. Much of my volunteerism has surrounded helping kids and teens live life on their terms in the safest way possible, so I’m super excited to get into some teen informed content.
HOW TO CREATE SUPPORT SYSTEMS WHEN YOU DON’T HAVE ANY
Have you ever been in a situation where you felt so incredibly alone? I know I have. That loneliness was felt in my business, my friendships, my family, and so many other places.
The reason I felt this loneliness was because I was experiencing a serious lack of support from so many important people in my life.
As we grow emotionally and mentally, the friends and people we used to have surrounding us may not fit into the life we used to live. This old version of ourselves may have had a very different type of support system than what we need going forward.
So let’s say you’ve transitioned away from your party friends, your toxic family, and have only just begun fostering the valuable relationships in your life you feel can be the support system you need. But, it’s not happening as fast as you want or need. So what do you do?
You start laying down the foundation for developing your own support systems. But where do you start? The ways you used to build support systems looks very different than the way you did so in the past.
Que Mandy Mandelberg. Molly Mandelberg is the Founder of Wild Hearts Rise Up, Creator of “Magnetic Influencer Collective” and also the writer and illustrator of "The Wild Hearts Rise Up Oracle Deck". She is the host of both “Tactical Magic” Podcast and “Reveal the Game of Life” Podcast, and she’s a bestselling author.
After spending years mastering content creation and online marketing, Molly finds her bliss in bridging the worlds of heart-centered healing and transformation, with the practical business strategies of leveraging a message into a global movement. She is a certified NLP Coach, an Access Consciousness Bars Facilitator, a Transformational Leadership Coach and a full time Nomad.
Molly works with coaches, healers, and conscious leaders to broadcast their messages with ease, so they can reach more people, and make more money with less time spent. She travels the world full-time and runs her 6-figure business out of her self-converted sprinter van tiny-home. Molly loves helping her clients to systemize their work and master the magnetics of marketing, so they can experience more freedom and make an even bigger difference.
I’m delighted to have Molly on the show today to discuss support systems in the variety of ways in which we need them.
Tune into the full episode below and view the transcript in full just a little more below.
TRANSCRIPT
SARAH POTTER: 00:01
Have you ever been in a situation where you felt so incredibly alone? I know I have felt loneliness was felt in my business, my friendships, my family, and in so many other places. The reason I felt this loneliness was because I was experiencing a serious lack of support from so many of the important people in my life at that time. As we grow emotionally and mentally, the friends and people we used to have surrounding us may not fit into the life we used to have, this old version of ourselves may have had a very different type of support system that we don't need going forward. So let's say you've transitioned away from your party friends, your toxic family, and have really only just begun to foster the valuable relationships that you now have in your life. And with these people, you feel that they can be your support system that you need. But it's not happening as fast as you want or need. So what do you do? In addition to that, maybe you're not feeling supported in your business, or you're not feeling supported in your healing journey, or whatever else you have going on in your life. So you start to lay the foundation for developing your own support system, but you're not sure where you start. The ways you use to build support systems looks very different than the way you did so in the past, not to mention use to have built in support systems that are now gone. Que Mandy Mandel Berg, our guest for today. Molly is the founder of wildhearts Rise up creator of magnetic influencer collective, and also the writer and illustrator of the wildhearts rise up Oracle deck. She is the host of both tactical magic podcast and reveal the Game of Life podcast. She's also a best selling author. After spending years mastering content creation, online marketing, etc. Molly finds her bliss and bridging the worlds of heart centered healing and transformation with the practical business strategies of leveraging a message into a global movement. She's a certified NLP coach and Access Consciousness bars facilitator, a transformational leadership coach and a full time Nomad which low key jelly of Mali works with coaches healers and conscious leaders to broadcast their messages with ease so they can reach more people and make more money with less time spent, she travels the world full time, and she runs her six figure business out of herself converted Sprinter van tiny home. Molly loves helping her clients to systemize their work and master the magnetics of marketing so they can experience more freedom and make an even bigger difference. I am delighted and overjoyed to have Molly on the show today to discuss support systems, and the variety of ways in which we need them now. Hey there, I'm your host, Sarah Potter. Let's just cut to the chase here. living a happy life is challenging for those with mental illness but not impossible. On this podcast, we'll be serving you a slew of mental health advice from professionals in the space ways to heal and nourish your heart and soul and kick down the door on mental health stigmas ready to get started strap in for today's episode. Why is having a support system so important?
MOLLY MANDELBERG 03:50
Because it's integral to us not burning out. And that that's the simple version. Do you want me to expand?
SARAH POTTER 04:00
Yes. Give me yeah, there's me all the long versions. Yeah,
MOLLY MANDELBERG 04:03
I love that. This is what we're talking about, too, because I was just talking about support with a friend of mine yesterday and how vital it is for our growth. The there's a lot of different ways that can look, I think when we're looking through the lens of marketing or our businesses, oftentimes we think support is going to either be a mentor, or a team member that's going to help us actually build our business or run our businesses. And that's just one avenue that support can come through to allow our businesses to expand. There's also friendship and partnership there are people in our lives who can help us care for our bodies help us eat good foods. Help us keep the house clean. There are people who are running businesses similar to ours that can support us in our dream and our vision and staying connected to the path that we're on. And not forgetting who we are in that process or continually holding space for For us to discover who we're becoming in that process. And all of those different components of support can sort of amalgam eyes, I guess you say, and to a support system that makes it easier to do great things to be the bigness of who we truly are becoming. And to do that without the overwhelm. Without the burnout, without the as much stress as we might have. Otherwise, I think there's a myth of solopreneur ship where we think, Oh, I'm running a business myself, that means I have to do everything myself, and understand every aspect of it myself, and then hold myself through it, because no one else in my life really gets it. And I think it takes courage. But it's really important for us to reach out and build the community support system that we need to build the life support system that we need, and then to find the business support system that we need as well to gain those new skill sets or build that momentum.
SARAH POTTER 06:06
So how do we go about growing our own support system? I know a lot of the listeners have their own mental health struggles, and a lot of imposter syndrome, and are more often than not like misunderstanding what a support system really is. And I think the way you explained it was really beautiful, and very clear and concise. And so now I'm sure there are people who are like, okay, so how do I grow support system? Yeah, especially if it sucks already.
MOLLY MANDELBERG 06:37
Yeah, I'll share some of the ways that I did, especially early on in my business, it's very lonely to recognize you're walking this path of business, and you don't have anybody really, who gets it, to talk about it within your life. So for me, I started wanting to surround myself with people and my youth, I was mostly friends with people who liked to party because I like to party in my 20s. I've outgrown that, and thankfully, but for the beginning of my business, pretty much everybody I knew was not on a trajectory of personal development in any way. And they were not able to hold the vision of what I was trying to create, because most people think it's kind of crazy to strike out on your own and start your own business. So I first started going to all kinds of meetup groups, I started networking like a crazy person, and just trying to surround myself with people who either got this business thing, and we're doing something similar, or who might want to be friends in that journey, or both. And so I started going to events and conferences, I started looking for teachers and mentors and attending talks, and workshops. And in that process, I found not only mentors who I really adored and respected and who knew how to do things that I wanted to learn how to do. So that became the sort of training or mentorship support system. But in those communities of people that I was hanging out in, I found like minded, like soul mate, best friends, who were also daring to dream, this crazy dream of, Let's grow a business where we can help people and let's find a way to make that support us financially. And, like, let's like, rocket, and I made close friends that I decided we wanted to have, like a mastermind group kind of, but really, it was just an emotional support group for people who got the dream. And I have to say there were a couple of times in my business where I was ready to quit. I was ready to go back to get a gob to support myself. And there's no shame in getting a j ob to support your business while you're still exploring what it is. But for me at the time, I made up the story that that would be a failure. And I had this moment on the phone with that group of three women we met like every week for four years, probably. And I said I was ready to quit and they said that's totally okay. You can do that if you want to. But they told me to wait a week. And I said, Okay, I'm sure I'm not gonna change my mind in a week, but like fine. And within that week, something shifted in me I was going through a lot of other trainings, and gross at the time, but something shifted and I got a couple of clients and those clients turned into packages and those packages ended up leading later on to more referrals and more packages. And I within that week decided oh, no, I'm definitely doing this. I'm I'm in this is my path. This is my passion. I'll keep figuring out what exactly that looks like. But I'm not giving up on it yet. And within six or seven months after that I had my first $10,000 month and then I was like holy Yeah, but I would not I was really ready to give up and without having that support system energetically holding my hand. It was like they saw the leader I was becoming before I even had the like, the strength to acknowledge that's where I wanted to go, they could already see in me what was possible before I could see it myself and having people who can hold you like that is invaluable in this kind of journey, this kind of process. So that was really hugely important, then my business started to grow, I started realizing that I could do more of the parts of my business that I love to do if I was willing to have an assistant. So I started hiring assistant for just a few hours a month that grew to now I have 20 hours a week, I have a virtual assistant who does work for me, I had to go through a lot of assistance to find the right person over the last five or six years. But that support system is something I will never not pay for, again, because it's so helpful to me to not have to do the grunt work aspects of my business that I'm tired of doing. And that allows me to do more of the parts. I love the marketing, the content creation, the new program development, the book writing, the actual serving of my clients, and leading of my groups, I get to do more of them. Because I'm spending less of my time on the stuff I don't want to be doing more of that needs to get done.
SARAH POTTER 11:03
Yeah. So to backtrack just a little bit, you know, when when you realize that your support group saw in you what you couldn't see at that moment in time? How did that realization feel? What were some of the emotions you were dealing with, in this one week of time, where you were just like, Okay, I guess we're gonna wait a week and see if I'm gonna go get a jlb.
MOLLY MANDELBERG 11:30
Yeah, so I will admit that I'm kind of a headstrong and independent person. And I don't often trust someone else over myself. It takes a lot. But I admire and respect these women in this group so much that I kind of chose to make a leap of faith in that week to believe what they saw in me more than what I believed about myself. And that's why it's so important to have other people who you can trust and respect around you who can hold space for you in that way. Because they might see what you're becoming and get to point you toward it, when you can't see it for yourself. And it felt it felt scary, of course. And it also felt like being held in a way I hadn't allowed myself to be held before. And they weren't holding up my business. They weren't financially supporting me. They weren't doing any of the work that I needed to get done. But they were holding the vision. And the vision was the thing that was calling me forward. And so it's really amazing to have a support system that can hold that vision for you. And I will say most of our best friends and our partners. And you know, our siblings are our parents, they can't hold that same vision for you. They want the best for you. They want to see you succeed, they want to see your dreams come true. But they don't often have the capacity to see that new thing you're becoming yet because they know you so well, because they think they've known you for so long or whatever.
SARAH POTTER 13:02
Yeah, I think that it's it is so difficult. I think in this world, where were mistrusting so many different important systems and politicians and people in media that it can be, it can feel really hard to trust. And I think, you know, you saying, you know, taking a leap of faith with these people that you really admired and respected, was difficult. But you did it anyway. And I think that is such an important thing to understand, like, it's a cliche thing, that people are like, just take a leap of faith, it's going to be fine. But I think addressing how difficult it is to actually do it is what makes it so much more remarkable, and unique to the individual. So when you when you started getting more clients coming in and seeing your portfolio CRO, what were some of the emotions you were dealing with around there? And how did you communicate those to your support group.
MOLLY MANDELBERG 14:05
I mean, that there's two sides to that as well. It's like the beauty and the gift of receiving of watching your gifts be chosen and enjoyed and seeing people be grateful for your support is one of the most delicious things to experience in life to know that the work you're doing does matter that people do need it and that they're getting something out of it is like hugely satisfying. And getting to share I mean all the women in that group, we all ended up having our first $10,000 months in our business through that support system in that year that we were together that first year that we were together. But yeah, I mean, it's like a compounding a collaborative compounding of like I don't know how to explain it high five energy of Yes. Hi hyping each other up to the point that things are seem easier or seem possible. And that can happen through a mastermind group that you create with other like minded individuals, it can also happen through getting the right coach or mentor who's on your team, and he's ready to go to bat for you, when you hit those low moments and remind you who the fuck you are, excuse my French, to use all the curse words, it's Yeah, to expand into that true potency of you and become that person that you've shared, you want to become?
SARAH POTTER 15:28
Yeah. So when you were building and creating and nurturing your the support group that you had during that time? You know, what are some of the more difficult parts of building that support group? Did you ever? I mean, you you are a headstrong, independent woman. So I'm sure it was, it felt a little easy for you, or maybe it didn't. And reaching out to some of these people and building those those friendships and those relationships. Was there any moment in time where you were, you know, thinking about utilizing someone as a support system, and it just didn't work out.
MOLLY MANDELBERG 16:09
I mean, there definitely have been yeah, I've had other mastermind groups that didn't last as long or didn't end up being aligned any longer. And there have been plenty of times where I had a teacher or mentor, or somebody helping me learn something in my business that you graduate from needing them at some point. And that's the way it kind of should be that everybody's expanding, and you're not always expanding in the same direction. And that's okay, too. It's okay to let things go. That group of women, we're all very close still, but we don't talk every week anymore. Because we're all sort of in different paths, a couple of them have moved on to different careers, and not doing their coaching businesses that much anymore. And you know, some are raising kids in different states. And so life got busier. And it didn't make sense anymore. But, yeah, certain support systems are going to serve you at certain parts of your life, and others may last a lifetime. But I think it's good to have a variety of different things that have your back, and not just in your business, but also in your life. Like my mom had a wildly successful career as a screenwriter still does. She still writes movies, she writes books and all kinds of things. But she hired a housekeeper because she knew spending however many hours a week cleaning her house, when she was first breaking into the movie business in her 20s. That that was taking away time that she could be working on those big projects and big deals. And she knew she didn't want to do that. So she hired a someone to clean her house for her. And it wasn't a huge expense. But it was, you know, considerable. But the support system that created for her to go deeper into her work, to have things managed and handled for her, made a huge difference in how her career went. And so it can look a lot of different ways, the things we choose to invest either our time or money in to support ourselves. You know, some people have conditions where they need bodywork or acupuncture every single week. And they are less capable of living their lives and feeling healthy and whole without it. And if you know that's true for you, then that has to be something you build into your life to allow you to do and be what you want to.
SARAH POTTER 18:32
Yeah, I mean, as the chronically ill person, I resonate with that very deeply. Yeah. And, you know, I love the point you are making with your mom and how a housekeeper was a support system for her. And I think that's often something that I think identifying women really resonate with the most because we're told we should be able to do what all and I think, their realization that like, we can't do it all if there's certain things we want to do and accomplish. So I love that. You know, we're talking about that. What are some similar support systems that you have for your own self outside of like masterminds and business oriented things and family?
MOLLY MANDELBERG 19:21
Yeah, totally. I mean, healthy food, food that sustains your energy is a big one too. So meal planning as much as possible having things if I have, most of my business calls happen Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, because I am nomadic. I travel full time and I like to have days of the week where I could just create, create and make art or write books, or travel across the country and go see people and visit my favorite bands, wherever they're playing, things like that. So I have really busy days in the middle of the week and to be able to still feed myself and maintain that energy in a healthy way. I take a few hours most weeks to pre make food But I can then eat one of my clients is just sharing about that in my group program magic that she makes these amazing dishes that she freezes some of it and she put some of it in the fridge, and then she's handled, the food aspect of her life is supported. And that's something we can plan for. That's something that instead of cooking one small meal every day, you cook two big meals twice a week, and then you have less of that work on your plate. So that's one small way that we can support ourselves. Also, for me, I have ways I support myself physically like food, and also working out, I fell in love with this gym called Orange theory a little over a year ago. And my mental health is greatly dependent on it. Now the endorphin high that I get twice a week from that kind of exercise, it's dramatically changed my relationship to my body, it's also dramatically changed my energy levels and how I how my mental health has a new sort of energetic minimum, then it doesn't go below as often because I have that sustained energy that I'm cultivating. So that's another way we can support our bodies and mental health. I have an Access Consciousness facilitator, if you've ever heard of Access Consciousness, it's an amazing set of tools to add awareness to your life, and to remind you of what you know, and to help you create your reality, beyond this reality, and that's sort of my version of having therapy twice a month that I meet with my access facilitator, Cassie summers and get to do deep work on whatever I'm processing or going through or choosing to create now in my life.
SARAH POTTER 21:38
Yeah, I, that is amazing. I definitely meet that in my life, too. The ability to like access the things that you're good, I think, as busy women who are running businesses or running households, like it's so easy to lose sight of what we're good at and lose sight of our own creativity and what we love doing. And I think, in addition to any therapies that someone might be doing, adding on that element of being able to access that part can bring so much more joy into your life. So when did you start doing this access support system? And how has it impacted the way you do things?
MOLLY MANDELBERG 22:25
Yeah, so Access Consciousness isn't just a one to one thing, it's also all kinds of classes. There's dozens of different books on Access Consciousness, there's classes all over the world. And I first took, I think it was 2016, that I took my first bars class, the bars class is usually the first in person class that you go to, it's a prerequisite for a lot of other classes. And it was around that same time, shortly after that. It was really right around that same time that I was about to break down and quit my business that I started getting into the world of Access Consciousness, and that those tools unlocked something in my capacity to receive that I think, like highly contributed to that first $10,000 month that I have, and I know has contributed to the many more that I've had since then. And 20,030 $1,000 month since then. So it's it's an amazing set of tools that I've mostly at the beginning, notice a change in my capacity to receive, receive, like attention, receive healthier communication, receive money in my life receive, you know, the things that I was calling in and asking for and trying to manifest. But Access Consciousness is like a deep well of information and tools to dig into. But yeah, I think I started working maybe three years ago, one on one with my friend, Cassie, because she has just a radically amazing kind of psychic warrior, which that I couldn't get enough of. So I started working with her one on one a few years ago.
SARAH POTTER 24:04
That's awesome. So I have a flipping of the the topic question for you. So we've talked a lot about how all these support systems are helping you and empowering you to be this amazing woman that you are. So how are you then giving back as a support system?
MOLLY MANDELBERG 24:24
Yeah, I'm glad we're having this conversation right now because I got off a couple of really beautiful client calls this morning before this recording. I Bridget, I bridge a gap between two kind of seemingly different things. So one side is the business and marketing. It's the strategy, the technology to automate more of your business. I work with primarily coaches and healers, holistic practitioners, people who trade in wisdom and guidance and have a deep mission to change the world. And I help them with the technology. I help them with the email marketing. I help them with all this sort of thing. Not yucky, but intense, nitty gritty strategy kind of stuff for their business. What are your offerings? How do they all connect? What software's do we need to use to put them together. And then also, of course, as a writer, I help with the copywriting and the actual messaging of how to bring your magic forth so that your soulmate clients can hear it and feel it and resonate with it, and choose to dive into it. And then what I noticed, because I was doing that, I felt I had convinced myself early on in my business, doing this niche that, oh, people just want the technology and the strategy. That's all they want from me. And yet I had come from I started my business as a hypnotherapist I've come from, like a deep spiritual background. And that inner work part of me was like, like, pushing at the seams to try and get back out. And I noticed that the work I was doing with my clients, we'd set the same things up for different people. And some people would work and take off and some people it wouldn't. And it had me acknowledged the same thing that happened for me, which is, there's inner resistance, there's inner limitations, there's blocks, there's energetic dissonance, that when it's in the way, it doesn't matter what we show up and create or do. If the energy is saying, Don't see me, or I'm not worthy, or any, I'm not enough, or I'm an imposter, whatever the 1000s of things that we could say to ourselves, if those things are in there, too loud or too deep, they're going to keep anything we create from working. So part of the work that I do also is finding those threads of those limitations or finding those threads of the barriers we have up to receiving and helping my clients to unpack that. And it's this kind of beautiful dance on a call with a client where we get to go from this big picture bird's eye view of what the business is, we're creating down deep into the trenches of like making the thing happen. And then noticing when those energy blocks those little Gremlins show up, and then digging into the deep inner work to unravel it, destroy and uncreate it and eradicate it from the game that we're playing.
SARAH POTTER 27:08
If someone were to be like, okay, Molly, I really need you to be my support system. And I don't know what areas I'm struggling with. Yeah, how do you help them identify those struggles?
MOLLY MANDELBERG 27:22
Totally, we start with a conversation, I asked a lot of the right questions. And through that conversation, we both discern what the best next move is what the right next step is how you want to move forward, what it is you truly desire to create, receive, or actualize or become next. And then I have probably an insanely, too much amount of offerings that people can get into. So people can work through, I have all kinds of free gifts and fun quizzes to play with. On my website, I have lots of like recorded webinar type trainings about different things, how to hire a virtual assistant, how to build your email list, how to create a course things like that. And then I have different memberships that I work people through, I have a course called Peace with money. And I have you know, three stages, there's Do It Yourself content, there's do it with a group content, and there's do it with me, programs, packages, whatever. And that can happen in a group setting, or that can happen one on one. And then my super high end clients who are too busy to do a lot of the stuff as homework themselves that pay me extra, so I do most of the work for them. So, yeah, I really love being the support system that I get to be for my clients. And it's really fun watching them, you know, get visible, finally show up, share their stuff, have their clients, expressing gratitude back to them for all the ways they're changing their lives. And that ripple effect i get to have by helping the people having a ripple, expand that it's like this x, exponential ripple effect kind of situation that I really just adore.
SARAH POTTER 29:04
So what happens, or I guess, weather? Do you ever find that after someone has a conversation with you, they begin to realize that their current support system does not align with where they want to go in life? And do you ever kind of help them understand how to, quote unquote, break up with that support system that's not really aligned with them?
MOLLY MANDELBERG 29:26
If that's if that's the support that they need? Yeah, absolutely. I can do that. I've had clients who had part time jobs with companies or organizations that they realize they just really didn't mesh with anymore. And I helped them find their empowered choice whether that was to stay longer or to go sooner. Yeah, the support I give is really meets people where they are. So if they're navigating something that needs to come before the business, the strategy stuff that we're working on, then we work on that and If it seems clear that somebody is burnt out and overwhelmed, then we discuss what the options are to help get them back their energy.
SARAH POTTER 30:07
Could you walk me through our I guess, walk, walk all of us listening through how one begins to start breaking down these systems that are burning them out. And a tiny little preview of what they can do once they're broken free of their burnout. Yeah,
MOLLY MANDELBERG 30:28
so first question, how do you start noticing what's burning you out? Or what? What's not supporting you right now? It's, one is to get curious and ask questions and ask as many questions as you can throughout the day, is this lighting me up? Is this serving me? Is this something that expands my life? Is this something that contributes to me, and getting them a sense of what in access we call light and heavy in my house growing up, we call it the joy dread scale. There's a part in your body, it's physical. And for some people, it's more energetic, but it still has some sort of sensation to it. It can feel like emotion, too. That's why my mom calls it the joy dread scale. And when you ask those questions, you don't have to get an answer. You don't have to get a word a yes or no, but there's part of you that lifts or sinks that feels light, or that feels heavy, that feels a sense of joy and elation, or that feels dried, it's kind of like Marie Kondo, in your reality, does this bring you joy? If it doesn't? Does it need to stay? Is it either serving a purpose? Or is it contributing to you? And if not, then what are you keeping it around? For? What is it actually serving you? And getting really like honest with what's true for you, is an inquiry process that we can all be in all of the time? How do we then find the support system that we need, or discover what kind of support system we need? It's kind of the same thing. It's like Dowsing for, where's the gap? Where's the part that feels heavy and unmet? So if you're walking around, and you know, the inner voice in your head is just beating you and up and braiding you all the time, then what resource tool mentor support system could you create, that would start changing that programming that would start, like rewriting that story to be more helpful and useful for you, and do some research, go find what people are doing what people have tried what's working, if you see somebody having an experience of life that you think you'd like to have, ask them what they're up to. And, you know, tell the universe, I'll have what they're having whatever that is, that's lighting them up like that, I want them and become the explorer of the adventure of your life, finding the tools that work for you. Like, for me, Access Consciousness is my fucking jam. There, I go to an access class. And I feel like I've gotten a ticket to Hogwarts, and I'm walking in and somebody's got to hand me the magic wand to change my life. There are other people who are totally turned off by those tools and think that they're yucky, and don't feel good. So everybody has a thing for them. And if you don't have a thing that works in your life yet, then it's up to you to go seek that out, no one's coming to save you from you, it's you that gets to be the Explore and gets curious and either reaches out a hand to ask for support from a specific person, or does the reach research to find where that person even is. And I can't encourage that highly enough to make that your highest priority to find the support that you need in whatever aspect of your life feels like it needs backup. And again, it might be I'm looking at right now, what physical aspect, like if I don't need more support in the actual creation of my business? What could support my body more? What kind of body work or energy work? Could I add to my life on a more consistent basis? That would allow me to go even bigger than I've gone yet? And I'm in that inquiry right now.
SARAH POTTER 34:09
Yeah, I, I think a lot of people tend to neglect this idea of a holistic support system. And I love that we're touching on all of those points. So for you, you know, as you're in this journey towards holistic unification, in all your support system ways, what are some things that you're doing to explore what support systems you need beyond business and family and life and food and body?
MOLLY MANDELBERG 34:42
Yeah, that's, that's the question. What else is that? How does it get better than this? I mean, I'm a voracious readers. So for me, I'm often looking at what's the next book? What's the next writer that's going to change my life because so many have already, and that's usually where I start. And then sometimes that leads to a training or a workshop or a conference that I want to attend, and figuring out, when can I do that? When is that possible? What part of the world do I need to be in to make that lineup? So yeah, I'm often looking for who's my next teacher? Who's my next mentor? What is my next big lesson? Because in that inquiry process, that's how I've gotten to all the magic I've uncovered so far. And I think if we think the story is, this is just who I am, or this is just how life is. Those are fucking lies. And the more you buy into them, the longer you stay stuck.
SARAH POTTER 35:36
Yes. And I think, I think it's so easy to get stuck. And like, this is just how it is, this is my normal and challenging, that is a vital part of being human. So my last question for you is, you know, for someone who is listening, and is like, Okay, I totally vibe with this, I understand exactly what I need to do I need to get curious, I need to start understanding what lights me up what makes me feel full of dread, I hate going to work. Why do I hate that? And is asking themselves all of these questions. Once they have the answers to those questions, what comes next?
MOLLY MANDELBERG 36:25
Yes, great question. What next? Yeah. And ask your body, your body is the one living in this physical reality, your body, your being, the infinite being that you are, doesn't have a body doesn't have a job, it's your body that has to show up to work and do that thing. So ask your body, hey, what would make this more fun for you? What would make it easier? Keep asking questions, and something will arise. I can't tell anybody what that next step is going to be in advance. It's asking that question, it's being in that inquiry that something will show up. And that's something that shows up may not be the rest of your life, you know, that next job or that next opportunity, or that next client or that next person to date, they might not be it forever, but they might inch you closer to either growing as a person or moving in a direction you wouldn't have otherwise went, that brings you to the next thing. And so being willing to be on that path of I don't know yet. But I'm going to start moving, I'm gonna take one step. Like I went and took one step to go test drive an RV, and I was like, You know what, I know I want to be back on the road in some way living on an in more of a house situation than car camping the way I used to. Because I've been nomadic for 14 years, I took that one step to go test drive an RV, and I was like, that's not quite it. And then I went down the rabbit hole of Van life and a few months later, bought my Sprinter van and started converting it into a tiny home. But I didn't know I was going to Van life. And if I had just sat there waiting for the van life idea to show up for me. I might have stayed waiting for clarity for a long time. But willing to take that first step to explore it to research it to see how it feels. That's the leap of faith is just that one next step forward. That curiosity, that willingness to try.
SARAH POTTER 38:11
Is there anything else you want to offer? Or or share?
MOLLY MANDELBERG 38:16
Yeah, I mean, like I said, I mostly am working with coaches and healers, people who are great at what they do, but maybe not the best yet at talking about what they do, or about organizing their offerings in such a way that more people can come into their sphere and, and work with them. So if that's you and the vibe of this episode struck you in any way, I'd be happy to offer your audience a complimentary reach your people with ease Strategy Session. My schedule has been so busy the last few years, usually I charge for these 30 minute sessions where we can sort of unpack what that next step might be for you and your business and what kind of support system either I can create or suggest or recommend that can help you move forward. But yeah, happy to offer a complimentary called anybody listening to this episode, you can go to wildhearts Raise up.com/strategy If you want to check that out, maybe can put that in the show notes for them.
SARAH POTTER 39:12
Yes, absolutely. This was amazing. And I love episodes where like, I learned something about myself and I have all these amazing realizations in my own mind going on. You've made me realize how many more support systems I really need in my life. And I am very honored and appreciative of you coming and sharing your your mind and your heart with with me and the people who will be listening to this episode really means a lot. You're so insightful and your mindfulness is explosive and incredible and I just have a lot of gratefulness for
MOLLY MANDELBERG 39:56
you. Thank you so much. I'm really grateful to have the chance to have conversations like these. So I appreciate you creating this platform. And thank you so much for having me and asking brilliant and beautiful questions. And thank you everyone out there for listening to.
SARAH POTTER 40:13
Thank you again so much for listening to this episode.